Ask Matt: Should There Be a ‘Penguin’ Season 2?
Welcome to the Q&A with TV critic — also known to some TV fans as their “TV therapist” — Matt Roush, who’ll try to address whatever you love, loathe, are confused or frustrated or thrilled by in today’s vast TV landscape. (We know background music is too loud, it’s the most frequent complaint, but there’s always closed-captioning. Check out this story for more tips.)
One caution: This is a spoiler-free zone, so we won’t be addressing upcoming storylines here unless it’s already common knowledge. Please send your questions and comments to [email protected]). Look for Ask Matt columns on most Tuesdays.
Will We See More of The Penguin on HBO?
Question: Why are so many people speculating in their post-mortems of The Penguin about a Season 2? It was always stated that The Penguin was supposed to bridge The Batman and The Batman Part II movies. It seems like the show is basically unrenewable at this point. Matt Reeves has said that they’re looking to do more for HBO in the future, but the second film is the next thing. So any future TV show that occurs in this universe would have to be after that and pick up from the end of it. They can’t really do anything else until after the next movie, which is scheduled for 2026. This show was very much informed by Carmine Falcone’s death in The Batman, and it seems like they’d have to let the next movie guide their choices for what to do next on TV.
[Spoilers] Even if the next show would focus on the character of Oz Cobb (Colin Farrell) again, it would have to be a very different setup with a substantially new cast because of how high the body count from this season was. I’m glad they managed to keep Sofia alive, and I hope we see her again at some point. But this particular story arc feels very closed to me. — J.L.
Matt Roush: The “why” has to do with HBO’s recent track record of announcing shows as limited series (Big Little Lies, The White Lotus), and then when they take off and are well received, they magically get second seasons or more. And properties derived from comic books and superhero movies are equally well known for doing sequels. The Penguin is somewhat different, being a self-contained story depicting Oz Cobb’s evolution into the iconic Penguin supervillain, and they obviously left it open for both him and Sofia Gigante (as she’s now called) to reappear in the Batman movies and possibly other projects. I’m content for now to let this scheming Penguin rest as a one-and-done, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see HBO revisit this I.P. while the Penguin buzz is still hot — a Sofia and Selina Kyle series, anyone?
For Shame?
Question: I was just wondering if there’s any evidence of actors being ashamed of their connection with shows like The Rookie and Doctor Odyssey, with their eye-rolling, ridiculously anti-real-world plots and dialogue? I wince a little every time I see Don Johnson on his new show and can’t help wondering if he thinks about how far he’s fallen from the heights of Miami Vice — and even Nash Bridges. Do they ever admit to any embarrassment? — Jim
Matt Roush: Whoa, lumping The Rookie with Doctor Odyssey is a bold statement. (Not my doing.) The point here being that much of what constitutes broadcast network TV these days qualifies as guilty pleasures — “prestige TV” has moved to the streamers, mostly — whether your comfort food is the formula procedural or the over-the-top melodrama. Doctor Odyssey clearly falls into the second camp (and I do mean camp) — and to answer your question directly, it’s rare for a star to admit being embarrassed to be on a show while the show is still in production. Not a good look. In Don Johnson’s case, that sheepish grin he’s wearing as the ship’s captain suggests that he’s having a blast on a show that isn’t exactly taxing his acting muscles. (I recall how good he was on HBO’s Watchmen not so long ago.) That said, I’m sure I’m guilty of wincing while watching him and Joshua Jackson banter. But hey, a job’s a job.
Will Lone Star Be Rescued?
Question: I know that my favorite show, 9-1-1: Lone Star, has been canceled at Fox, but is there any chance it will get picked up by ABC, like 9-1-1? — Susan
Matt Roush: Sadly, no. Fox has set Feb. 3 as the date for Lone Star’s series finale, and ABC is starting from scratch, it would appear, to launch its own 9-1-1 spinoff. Latest word is that Hawaii will be the most likely setting.
Give the Guy Something to Do!
Question: Will FBI, either cut Jubal (Jeremy Sisto) loose or write some actual dialogue? I am so sick of his “yeah, yeah, yeahs” while the team does all the work. — Stacy
Matt Roush: This made me laugh. I’m not a regular watcher, and I know the character of Jubal has had some personal subplots like the other main characters, but any time I tune in I can’t help but think that Jeremy Sisto (who I’ve enjoyed in shows as various as Six Feet Under, Suburgatory, and OG Law & Order) is currently one of the most underused actors on TV.
Cult TV Alert!
Comment: I just wanted to say how much I love Interior Chinatown! Some of the outright funniest moments I’ve seen recently are in that show (and so far I’m only three episodes in). Thanks for the mention in your daily column. I also saw Jimmy O. Yang on late-night TV this week, so I might have noticed it anyway, but this is one I wouldn’t have wanted to miss! The scene in which Jimmy keeps trying to enter the police precinct while everyone ignores him is a modern classic. Yang is amazing, and Ronny Chieng just keeps going from great scene to great scene. — D.P.
Matt Roush: Always enjoy passing on enthusiastic recommendations. (This month’s streaming glut has kept me from finishing this series, but what I’ve sampled is very clever.) I agree that Yang (a favorite from Silicon Valley) is terrific, and Ronny Chieng is having a moment. Not only is he killing it on The Daily Show and stealing his scenes in Chinatown, but he has a new comedy special on Netflix (Love to Hate It) premiering Dec. 17.
And Finally …
Comment: While growing up in the 1980s, I recall Debra Winger’s excellent work (Urban Cowboy, An Officer and a Gentleman, Terms of Endearment, and Black Widow among others) and was not surprised to be wowed by her splendid performance in the recent episode of Accused. Her acting style continues to be the most effortless I have ever seen. She never looks like she’s working hard to deliver. It just flows so fluidly. A very uncommon asset. Her last awards and nominations were definitely earned, and I hardly need to say that this appearance deserves recognition. — Fred
Matt Roush: This wasn’t my favorite episode of the anthology, but as usual, the cast more than made up for any of the contrived script’s shortcomings. I love how Accused gives rarely seen actors some juicy material to play, and Winger was well supported by Mercedes Ruehl and Christine Ebersole.
That’s all for now. We can’t do this without your participation, so please keep sending questions and comments about TV to [email protected]. (Please include a first name with your question.)
Conversation5 Comments
Please read the TV Insider Community Guidelines.
Comments are closed on this story.
-
P
I haven't seen "The Rookie" or "Doctor Odyssey" , myself, so I can't comment on those specific shows, but such a strange question to ask. Like Matt said, a job's a job, and most actors are just happy to have work. Especially in an industry like acting, which isn't always known for being stable and steady. Even if an actor does think something they're working on is cheesy/dumb/what have you, it's still something to put on their resume and it shows that they're reliable workers who'll show up and who don't act like they're so "above" the thing they're working on, which bodes very well for one's career in general, regardless of how long they've been acting.
(And hell, for all we know, some actors may LIKE the cheesy over-the-top ridiculous nature of what they're working on, just 'cause, y'know, it's fun, or they get on weill with the people on set, or whatever. Not everything has to be completely realistic and anyone tuning into police drama shows or a show like "Odyssey" (which, from the promos alone, does look pretty bonkers), and expecting realism in the plots and whatot...well...I think they're looking in the wrong place, frankly.)
3
-
B
The joke in our family about Jubal is that we know what his favorite band is. The Yeah Yeah Yeahs. 🙂
2
-
G
I happen to like The Rookie and Dr Odyssey. There is always a little humor in every aspect of day to day life. After being in the Army for 10 yrs. I realize even in most dire situations you can find humor. It's television and entertainment with writers having carte blanche on their ideas and scripts. Deal with it and either watch or don't watch, it's your television set no one forces you to watch. Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
1
-
O
Personally I'm not a fan of Jubal's storylines on FBI. I'm not interested in the personal lives of these people-- it's called a procedural for a reason. So just get on with the procedures already.
And I was watching a rerun of FBI last night (ION channel runs the show on Monday evenings) and I was wishing I had a dollar every time Jubal did his "yeah-yeah-yeah" thing. 🤓
I don't watch The Rookie, so I can't speak to that specifically, but it sounds like the letter-writer above considers that show to suffer from the same bad habit that Castle exhibited: ridiculous shenanigans and eye-rolling behavior & dialogue.
2 1
-
G
The Rookie is a solid cop show with some balanced light comedy .
Doctor Odyssey is campy medical show with lots of comedy and lightness.
They really are not similar at all. None of The Rookie actors (huge cast) should be ashamed at all. They should be proud to be part of such an entertaining show.
1